Polish keyboard has uncommon keys layout

Filip shared this question 1 year ago
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Hi guys,

I tested your keyboard and i find it hard to test since i am using polish. Usually we have few polish layouts, out of which 'polish programmers' is the most commonly used and i have never seen any other layout in use here in Poland (i am using computers for 25 years now).

You use some other layout, which maybe is according to some standard, but i bet polish people always never use it.

99.9% of our keyboards has standard US QWERTY layout. I propose either you change it to qwerty for polish language or make two variants. Otherwise you will miss opportunity in Poland. Cheers!

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Hi Filip

The reason why we don't use normal QWERTY (which is mostly used all over the world yet) that it's just not optimized for mobile. It has been designed more than 140 years ago for typewriters so they don't get stuck. That's why we think our layout is better for one or two finger typing on touch devices. For example the keys are larger and easier to hit on a small screen.

It needs about 1-2 weeks to get used to it and after 1-2 weeks more you're faster than before. If you think back: also in 90s we were able to use a completely different mobile layout (abc) quite fast.

I hope you give it a chance. I bet you won't regret it. :)

Best & thanks for your support!

Janis

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Ahh right. This is the trick ;) fine. Lets try it then.

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Hi Michal

Thanks a lot for your helpful feedback! :)

  • That do you mean with Z and Y switch? Is it wrong in the current layout?
  • About the accents you're totally right. We'll change that too together with some other language problems the users reported today.


Thanks for your support! :)

Janis

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Can you eleborate that? Why is qwerty good for english but qwertz better for polish? The frequency of z & y which is very similar doesn't justify the layout switch?

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Well, you're right. That's very confusing. :)

Google shows QWERTZ as well as QWERTY when searching for 'polish keyboard layout'. Of course we'll do some research but if someone can explain it that would be great. :)

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Yes, I find Y and Z switch a little annoying. I've read your explanation in other topic, but I don't agree on it (I left response there)


I am testing now the Polish (QWERTZ) layout, after testing little bit English (QWERTY) + Polish as second, but I don't think its worth messing with Y and Z. My speed does not benefit - I don't feel it, and it adds little bit of learning curve. Give me a reason, because I don't get that QWERTZ for Polish right now :)


cheers,

Michał

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I just wrote you here: http://community.wrio-keyboard.com/topic/polish-keyboard-has-uncommon-keys-layout


Would be great if could shed some light on it! :)

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There are two polish keyboard layouts: mostly used is Polish Pro (or Polish Programist) keyboard. It is QWERTY and accented letters accessible with alt+letter, like ą = alt+a. The ź letter (different than ż) is available as alt+x. That is why I suggest to have ź under x in our other discussion.


The other layout is Polish Typist keyboard (QWERTZ + acccented chars on punctuation keys). It was used on typewriters and nobody - I mean nobody - uses it. I work with computers since 8 bit era and never seen it in use :)

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Ah okay. Thanks a lot for clearing this up! :) So I think it's best to implement both layouts and let the user chose. Because for us it's quite easy to add new languages anyway if they are so similar to qwerty and so on.

About the accents we'll have to look because normally we put the accent to the letter which is the same without accent. So I think it might be better to just switch ź and ż.

Thanks again, what a great community we already have! :)

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We will fix the character allocation in the next update.