Separate layout from language selection

Nicolas Grossen shared this idea 2 years ago
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Will there be coming an azerty version of this keyboard? I am willing to learn the qwerty setup if not, it's just a question :) also please don't listen too much to all the feature requests and make/keep this keyboard as fast as it can be :p

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Hi Nicolas

If you choose French as main language it should already be AZERTY! Happy typing! :)

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Thanks i will try this but my native language is Dutch and the language I use second most is English. I just got the app so I would'nt know but will the fact that French is main language affect auto correct? :)

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No, the keyboard learns all the words you type independent of the language you use. So no need to switch. :)

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Personally I think the layout of the keyboard and the languages used need to be seperated.


I'n dutch/belgian as well and I use an azerty keyboard.

But I don't need to switch keyboards to type englisch or polisch of whatever language I want to type.


So I think a separation between language and layout is necessary.


Vampie.

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You are right, I think that would be best too. But I read somewhere that the autocorrect in WRIO actually doesn't use a languages' dictionary but instead only your own typed words. If this is the case then it does not really matter which language you select, only for special characters like é and ü and so :)

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Nicolas is right. WRIO Keyboard learns all the words you write so ou don't have to switch between different languages. Language selection is only for the layout (1st language) and the accents (1-5 languages). So you can use AZERTY add all the languages (for diacritics like üé...) and just type. :)

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But an autocorrection which is limited to your own words is only partly helpful, therefore and if I look to the high interessest of implementing a basic set of words, i'm quite sure that they will implement it. And then the chosen language may become important. Currently of course not.

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Why it doesn't make sense? WRIO Keyboard already has larger buttons and dynamic layout (learns where you hit the keys and uses this info to correct it) to minimize typing errors - after you re-learned the new layout. If there still is typing error it's very probably that you already typed that word in the past and our smart algorithm will find it. Like this we can minimize cumbersome autocorrections. And your personal dictionary get's better and better over time and filled with words you really need.

Maybe a very small default dictionary would make sense at the beginning, you're right, so users don't have to start from zero. But let's first test our autocorrection to find out what are its strengths and weaknesses. We'll have enough time to fine-tune it in the future as WRIO is an ongoing project. :)

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That's easy. You can convience me because i'm a "freak", but no chance for many of my friends! If there is no basic set of words this keyboard is hard to handle. Of course i will make less mistakes but an autocorrection does not only helps you and correct words, it helps you also to write faster and helps you if you don't know exactly how to write a word. For example, if I want to write "I'm" i usually just have to write "Im", same for "thats". Sometimes, especially if I write in a foreign language, an autocorrection corrects misspelled words because I do not know how exactly the word is correct. If I will only have an own learning dictionary, I will ALWAYS write a word wrong.

Without a basic dictionary in my opinion this keyboard will not be successfully. That's a pity. But we will see. I'm still using it, but it takes so much longer and I really miss to write the words "intentionally" wrong to be faster.

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I get what you mean. :) Especially for "Im" and "thats" we'll try to find an additional solution to our current autocorrection. We already talked about that in the team in the past. And about an initial basic dictionary too.


I just wanted to say that for us it's really important to improve WRIO Keyboard step by step together with the community because we think the app will get better with then. So just because it's not in the initial version it doesn't mean it never will be implemented. We just want to check first what our current autocorrection can do and what it can't - and then we can improve it. And for that we'll surely need your feedback. That's why our community is so important for us. :)

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But if you type I'm and that's right the first two weeks as the keyboard learns your words, won't it know later what you mean? :) anyway I really like the fact that I will never get corrections to words I would never use, only my own words :) but opinions differ :)

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That's fine! It is absolutly ok to improve the keyboard step by step. And I don't really care about how you will improve it. A lot of people will be fine to live without an autocorrection, but maybe this will give to the keyboard an additional speed up. In combination with your "secret" algorythm of the own user directionary this may become outstanding. And nobody prevents you to add a switch to disable the basic directionary.


Therefore you can in my opinion only win to add one.


But we should return to the question

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I'm SWISS but SWISS-FRENCH, i wouldn't like to use a QWERTZ without selecting German as language...


Swiss-French are always forgotten..

:(

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Hi Boliv

Some languages were missing because of a problem. We fixed it in Android 1.0.1 and it will be available in the next iOS version too. In the meantime it's best to select german as first language and french as second. Then you get QWERTZ with all the french diacritics.

Thanks for your support! :)

Janis

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Ok, thanks it is what i did, but not very practical especially for the "ä" who are more frequent than "à" in German, so it is in the first place when I hold "a".


Waiting for update though


Thanks for the answer !

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Hi Vampie,

It's azerty-keyboard (Belgian French), isn't it?

I'm Belgian/Flemish (dutch) and use an Belgian French keyboard (see my pic).cc892e9ec38d42fda25d3beed52e7afd

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Hi Daniel

At the moment the best solution is to select French as first language and Dutch as second. That way you will have AZERTY and the Dutch diacritics.

Best

Janis

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We will create a separate layout for Dutch (Belgium), with AZERTY and special characters for both Dutch and French. Would that make sense?

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French (Switzerland) is now included. Best, David